Well? i hve a small problem every time KDM starts xconsole aoutomaticly starts wuth it? and when i enter AS session? window controling gismos do not appear, on the xconsole window! How do i solve it? Where shall i dig? _______________________________________________ The AfterStep Window Manager for X User's Mailing List http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users