Re: afterstep in redhat
Charlie Schmidt (ishamael@themes.org)
09 Dec 2000 23:23:49 EST
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ill chime in then.
i dont think it should be completly the team's responsibility to provide rpms.
should we be held accountable for slackware .tgzs? debian .debs? stample .slps?
thats bull, we maintain a complete and easily packagable distribution of
afterstep, why should we be responsible for tailoring to a linux distribution?
[Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:00:53 -0500 (EST)] <c_lee11@yahoo.com>
> On 8 Dec 2000, Doug Alcorn wrote:
>
> >
> > Nathaniel, while I am interested in what RedHat does (or doesn't) do
> > with AfterStep, the best forum for this is the as-users mailing list.
> >
> > Nathaniel Graham <npgraham@usa.net> writes:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > On the official afterstep page, it mentions that RedHat has removed afterstep
> > > from it's distribution. I recently contacted RedHat about that and my growing
> > > list of issues with their distribution. The response I received was:
> > >
> > > "As for packages no longer in the distribution, we drop packages when they
> > > become too difficult to maintain. We do not have a huge development staff and
> > > thus we rely heavily on the community to support and maintain various
> > > packages. If there's a package that has been dropped that you feel we need,
> > > pitch in and help maintain the code. We could then add it back into the
> > > distribution." (I reformatted it, but it's otherwise verbatim).
> > >
> > > Now last I checked, the afterstep team has always made afterstep available in
> > > rpm and srpm format. What more maintainence do they need? While she may have
> > > been refering more specifically to some of the other packages I asked about,
> > > afterstep was one of my biggest beefs (however, xv hasn't changed in forever,
> > > so again, what maintainence could they need?).
> > >
> > > Any clarification you can provide would be appreciated.
> > > Thanks for your time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nathaniel Graham
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> >
> > Yes, AS has had problems with RedHat for quite some time. I'm sure
> > there are several on the as-users list who can chime in with stories.
> > Most of the problems relate to their decision of which version of AS
> > they ship. One time they took (just like the recent gcc mess) one of
> > our development snapshots (1.4.something) and called it 1.5.0. Prior
> > to that, they had built their own window manager out of fvwm and
> > _called_ it AfterStep. I think _it_ still ships with RedHat. They
> > now call it "AnotherLevel" (it would be interesting to know if anyone
> > is using this).
> >
> > Other's may have differing opinions, but I say "good riddance."
> >
>
> A lot of this can be blamed on the AS guys if you ask me. If you
> didn't want Redhat shipping the development snapshots you should've
> provided Redhat the rpm's of the version you wanted to be shipped.
>
> You really can't blame Redhat for something that's really a screwup on
> AS part. A little forethought would've prevented the whole thing.
>
> As for the afterstep team has always made afterstep available in rpm
> and srpm formats that's laughable. Check the date and version of the rpm
> packages. If the AS guys can't be bothered to update the stuff on their
> own WWW site, why should Redhat or any other distro do it?
>
>
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