I have two dumb questions: what is that little number box called that comes up when you move a window around? telling you it's geometry... and, where do you define where it shows up at? -Rex -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.calderasystems.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html