With the last patch from nekked, frames run with vertical title bar, BUT, just one thing: the North Est corner frame is cover by the Est Frame. (or North West and West i don't remember). Surely the coner would be drawn in last, so any idea ? -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.calderasystems.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html