The page at caldera about the list has changed the new page is: http://www.calderasystems.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html (www.calderaSYSTEMS.com is the change) JD -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html