on a related note... if you hit control-v, which I'm in the habit of doing to set my backspace character on different machines, and it prints out the contents of the X buffer. is there any way to turn this off? -Rex -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html