I had the same problem with AfterStep locking when I started it with asfsm in Wharf. I took away the -i switch as an arg to asfsm an everything worked fine after that. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html