Those who experience problems downloading Afterstep-1.5beta3 from David Mihm's site, might want to try here : http://members.xoom.com/sashav/afterstep.html Good Luck Sasha -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html