Is there an archive of the mailing list anywhere? I'm quite sure that I've seen references to it in the past, but can't seem to find it now. BTW, 1.5beta4 _ROCKS_. Dave davewalker@zebra.net -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html