Sorry about the last mail, if you read the top left terminal window, the text reads : "...transparent Eterm..." Oooops. This is an option with Eterm's is it not? Adler. -- WWW: http://www.afterstep.org/ FTP: ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/ MAIL: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/afterstep.html